Comments on: *The Importance Of The Asterisk http://www.critiquethis.us/2009/07/29/the-importance-of-the-asterisk/ Critique This is an architecture blog in a magazine format which critically examines the state of architecture within the United States. Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:56:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Lance Oyler http://www.critiquethis.us/2009/07/29/the-importance-of-the-asterisk/comment-page-1/#comment-2629 Lance Oyler Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:30:51 +0000 http://www.critiquethis.us/?p=684#comment-2629 I appreaciate the time an effort you have spent researching this! As I understand it, it is up to the state whether or not you can appeal the results on an exam. In the state of Washington, I was told by the Department of Lisencing that appeals are not allowed. End of discussion, thank you, have a good day. Of course this answered none of my questions. I failed Building Technology twice. I had passed the other 8 sections of ARE 3.1 on the first attempt. I have the usual questions: How can I fail the Structural Layout Vignette twice, when I have done my own structural drafting for the past 10 years? How could I fail what I thought was the easiest of the nine exams twice? etc... What really troubles me is that this is the only section I took in Oregon and both times I failed. I was assured that it would make no difference which state I took the test. Now I wonder if that was true. Certainly based upon your article, it affects the appeal process (if there were one.) I appreaciate the time an effort you have spent researching this!

As I understand it, it is up to the state whether or not you can appeal the results on an exam. In the state of Washington, I was told by the Department of Lisencing that appeals are not allowed. End of discussion, thank you, have a good day.

Of course this answered none of my questions. I failed Building Technology twice. I had passed the other 8 sections of ARE 3.1 on the first attempt. I have the usual questions: How can I fail the Structural Layout Vignette twice, when I have done my own structural drafting for the past 10 years? How could I fail what I thought was the easiest of the nine exams twice? etc… What really troubles me is that this is the only section I took in Oregon and both times I failed. I was assured that it would make no difference which state I took the test. Now I wonder if that was true. Certainly based upon your article, it affects the appeal process (if there were one.)

]]> By: Ampdesign http://www.critiquethis.us/2009/07/29/the-importance-of-the-asterisk/comment-page-1/#comment-812 Ampdesign Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:43:17 +0000 http://www.critiquethis.us/?p=684#comment-812 Yes...NCARB is the Star Chamber. As for conflicting information, I was told by the phone jockey on the other end and the supervisor of the phone jockey and yet another phone jockey, that I could not appeal the test I failed...period. I know this to be a complete lie but they stood their ground. It seems like a phone jockey with a GED is giuding my career. Yes…NCARB is the Star Chamber. As for conflicting information, I was told by the phone jockey on the other end and the supervisor of the phone jockey and yet another phone jockey, that I could not appeal the test I failed…period. I know this to be a complete lie but they stood their ground. It seems like a phone jockey with a GED is giuding my career.

]]> By: ARE, NCARB, Errors, Omissions & Quiet Corrections | A Critical Architecture Blog | Critique This! http://www.critiquethis.us/2009/07/29/the-importance-of-the-asterisk/comment-page-1/#comment-563 ARE, NCARB, Errors, Omissions & Quiet Corrections | A Critical Architecture Blog | Critique This! Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:05:38 +0000 http://www.critiquethis.us/?p=684#comment-563 [...] matrix, and yet another reason why NCARB needs an appellate process that works. See my article *The Importance Of The Asterisk if you think that one already exist. If you are not familiar with the process you’ll find out [...] [...] matrix, and yet another reason why NCARB needs an appellate process that works. See my article *The Importance Of The Asterisk if you think that one already exist. If you are not familiar with the process you’ll find out [...]

]]> By: James http://www.critiquethis.us/2009/07/29/the-importance-of-the-asterisk/comment-page-1/#comment-561 James Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:48:44 +0000 http://www.critiquethis.us/?p=684#comment-561 I think that there are many people that feel the same way that you and I do. The system is corrupt and I am not sure how to fix it. All we can do at this point is to remember this experience and hopefully one day one of us will be in a position with enough power to correct the process, and turn what is nothing more than a cash cow into a right of passage that we can feel proud for achieving, rather than leaving us all empty asking where the last few years went. I think that there are many people that feel the same way that you and I do. The system is corrupt and I am not sure how to fix it. All we can do at this point is to remember this experience and hopefully one day one of us will be in a position with enough power to correct the process, and turn what is nothing more than a cash cow into a right of passage that we can feel proud for achieving, rather than leaving us all empty asking where the last few years went.

]]> By: Your Name http://www.critiquethis.us/2009/07/29/the-importance-of-the-asterisk/comment-page-1/#comment-549 Your Name Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:32:06 +0000 http://www.critiquethis.us/?p=684#comment-549 Thank you so much for your post on the ridiculous and ludicrously expensive NCARB system. Even passing exams, I feel like somehow I am getting ripped off. Does it really take 3 months to grade a computerized test?! I just received my first fail result and was at a loss as to what I'd done wrong. It took me a while to decipher the asterix/no asterix code and I was wondering whether it was worth appealing. It seems either way is just costly and frustrating. I feel trapped by the system, but it really helps to read posts like yours that shed a bit of light and a sprinkling of humor on the shadowy, backward NCARB machine. Thank you so much for your post on the ridiculous and ludicrously expensive NCARB system. Even passing exams, I feel like somehow I am getting ripped off. Does it really take 3 months to grade a computerized test?! I just received my first fail result and was at a loss as to what I’d done wrong. It took me a while to decipher the asterix/no asterix code and I was wondering whether it was worth appealing. It seems either way is just costly and frustrating. I feel trapped by the system, but it really helps to read posts like yours that shed a bit of light and a sprinkling of humor on the shadowy, backward NCARB machine.

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